Horrific Temecula Freeway Crash YT footage (Cali)

"VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely" (vajazzlemcdildertits) 06/04/2019 at 19:28 • Filed to: DUI, horrible, tragic, crash, youtube, California, Temecula

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Note: Violence warning - Heavy crash, no gore (2:26 impact) also, some language

The driver of the truck is in police custody and is suspected of DUI.

The woman in the first grey car that was hit is reported dead. The video shows there was barely anything she could have done. You can’t avoid everything.

Several other people are injured.

Don’t drink and drive. Pay attention to the road. Don’t be the truck driver. That person lived but their target didn’t.

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Edit: A separate Oppo post about the Truck driver responsible for crash being charged for second degree murder and a few other charges. And no, he has not aged well. He had priors in WA state. 

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OPPOsaurus WRX > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 06/04/2019 at 19:38

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wow wtf!?!? if that was anything other than a medical issue, he deserves to spend the rest of his life drinking out of a straw watching that on constant replay.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 06/04/2019 at 19:40

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That’s terrifying. On many levels. Particularly how the car just sort of turned into dust upon impact. Hope the guy never sees the light of day again if he was that plastered. Also should be said that this was 7:30 in the morning!!!!!

Who the fuck is that tanked that early?

VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely > OPPOsaurus WRX 06/04/2019 at 19:41

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Had the same thought. With the media attention, they might throw the entire book at him. 

CaptDale - is secretly British > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 06/04/2019 at 19:42

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Jesus that car was just taken down.

VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely > CaptDale - is secretly British 06/04/2019 at 19:43

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Yep she had no chance. Tragic. 

CaptDale - is secretly British > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 06/04/2019 at 19:46

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Seriously. Just minding your own business and driving along. Nothing she could have done... just fuck that guy

OPPOsaurus WRX > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 06/04/2019 at 19:49

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forget the book, throw the bookcase

OPPOsaurus WRX > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 06/04/2019 at 19:50

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i was trying to figure out where she ws.  it didn;t look like she was in the car.  I have a bad feeling she was probably all over the grill/bumper.

sony1492 > OPPOsaurus WRX 06/04/2019 at 19:55

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The way there are looking around the driver compartment when they show up to the scene I think her body was  still around the driver seat.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 06/04/2019 at 19:59

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Someone needs to figure out how fast that truck was going. That just seems absolutely insane. Often I like to think how modern safety stuff basically makes any frontal/rear collision pretty damn survivable. But man that was such a high speed impact that there was no hope for survival there. Especially being a road I have driven on a few times since its not too far from home, this is frightening to think about. I worry enough about people colliding with me at normal rates of speed just because I dont want damage to my car or an insurance claim. I’ve seen people in LA driving at speed differences like this, it is definitely scary. Thankfully I havent witnessed any high speed wrecks yet and I always hope that by having a dash cam, it jynxes me from ever seeing something worth recording. 

E92M3 > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 06/04/2019 at 20:05

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R andom observation , but I’m surprised how many people are wearing long sleeves and jackets this time of year. 

facw > sony1492 06/04/2019 at 20:09

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Honestly I was impressed the work truck driver’s calmness. I think I would have been really uneasy approaching that car, I’ve never seen a dead body (probably, I saw a guy collapsed on the sidewalk in Chicago who looked like he had the plague), and I definitely wouldn’t be keen to see one in a “nothing left but hamburger” situation.

VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely > E92M3 06/04/2019 at 20:11

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As an off-topic aside, yeah. It’s shorts and shirt weather for me for shure; it’s June. 

facw > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 06/04/2019 at 20:13

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I’m trying to figure out who the two people on the left side of the divider are. The second one (who collapses) is presumably the pickup driver, badly trying to escape the scene. Is the first one someone who had been ejected? Someone from the white SUV? Getting across the barrier and thus better protected is not a terrible idea after a crash, but I’m not sure I’d do it that quickly after a crash of that magnitude, and it even opening the doors might have been a bit tricky.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 06/04/2019 at 20:14

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Its California, our weather is determined by the amount of clouds, not the time of the year. June is honestly one of the colder months on average (during the day) due to the whole June gloom thing where a marine layer is present most of the day. And considering its the morning, I always have a jacket year round in the morning. We dont get 80 degree mornings lol.

If this is near Temecula, they are used to HEAT as well. It gets hot inland so if its a cloudy morning with ~60-65 degree weather that is frigid compared to the 100+ daytime with the sun out.

daender > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 06/04/2019 at 20:17

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I’m confused as to how that Altima got ripped apart so easily.  Trucks are getting too tall if they just ignore any rear protection and drive over the trunk and into the passenger compartment.

gettingoldercarguy > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 06/04/2019 at 20:20

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Autonomous cars can't get here soon enough.

UnderSTeerEnthusiast - Triumph Fanboy > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles 06/04/2019 at 20:32

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My guess is someone who worked a night shift and hit the bar right after?

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 06/04/2019 at 20:33

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That pickup driver should be treated as the piece of shit that he is. Wonder if he fits the unemployed meth head demographic.

Urambo Tauro > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 06/04/2019 at 20:34

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Kind of off-topic: camera-car sure likes that left lane...

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > UnderSTeerEnthusiast - Triumph Fanboy 06/04/2019 at 20:35

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I feel like I would know better than to drink that much and then stumble back via my truck in rush hour traffic.

Just Jeepin' > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 06/04/2019 at 20:35

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I argued with someone on FP about safety. He was comfortable letting his teenage   daughter drive an older vehicle without modern safety equipment because he had trained her to drive safely.

I’m not saying she should or shouldn’t, but that betrayed a common but misplaced confidence that defensive driving is enough, that our vehicular  destiny is under our control.

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > OPPOsaurus WRX 06/04/2019 at 20:39

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The driver was 25 and drunk AF, according to the article which also states they arrested him.

nermal > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 06/04/2019 at 21:14

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1 standard white line on a highway should be 10 feet. It looks like the space between each of the lines and the dot on the road between them is about the same. So, 10 ft for each line, 10 ft line-to-dot, and 10 ft dot-to-line. A crew-cab pickup is about 20 ft, so the measurements appear close against the smashing truck.

Using that, I count the truck going about 120 ft in the second before the crash. That puts the speed @ 81 MPH. No br ake s before impact either.

Nauraushaun > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 06/04/2019 at 21:14

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Just quietly this is why buying a bigger car for your own safety is a bit fucked.

If you make a mistake, there’s a bigger chance you’ll kill someone. Enjoy living with that guilt

facw > Nauraushaun 06/04/2019 at 21:45

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I suspect most people would be rather feel guilty and alive than be dead. It probably is the sort of thing where heavier cars (all other things being equal) should pay some additional safety tax or higher insurance premiums to nudge people back towards the car that’s safer for everyone rather than what’s safest for them.

VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely > Just Jeepin' 06/04/2019 at 21:46

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I have that argument semi regularly.

Just Jeepin' > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 06/04/2019 at 21:49

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I’m also skeptical of any parent who thinks their teenager is a good driver. Not a flaming idiot, perhaps, but teens are stupid and careless  by definition.

Just Jeepin' > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles 06/04/2019 at 21:51

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I was a little disheartened to see that some  local liquor stores open at 7am.

arl > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles 06/04/2019 at 22:00

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Alcoholics. 

VincentMalamute-Kim > Just Jeepin' 06/04/2019 at 22:06

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I don’t understand the drive through windows the local liquor stores have.

fintail > daender 06/04/2019 at 22:11

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Look at where the lights are aimed from so many of these overcompensators when you are out at night - right into the eyes of people in normal cars.  That ship sailed a long time ago, and heaven help you if you are in a Miata, Mirage, etc.

NojustNo > Just Jeepin' 06/04/2019 at 22:34

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And inexperienced which also means they aren’t prepared for a lot of situations yet.

QCGoose > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) 06/04/2019 at 22:41

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If it was a 4x4 and wasn’t altered/modified, its top speed should be an electronically-limited 97-98 mph.

My guess was that he was going every bit of that.

Nauraushaun > facw 06/04/2019 at 22:42

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If you get a regular sized car, your chance of survival goes down but so does your chance of killing. There’s gotta be a happy medium, aside from “I need the biggest car possible, fuck everyone else”.

Safer for everyone, that’s right. I guess driverless cars will make this redundant one day.

ttyymmnn > Urambo Tauro 06/04/2019 at 22:50

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Lucky for him he wasn’t in the middle lane.

ttyymmnn > Just Jeepin' 06/04/2019 at 23:09

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I’m teaching my 16yo to drive right now. For somebody his age, he’s pretty good. (He drove to school the other day, and asked me how he did. “Well,” I said, “we didn’t die.”) But there is no substitute for 35+ years of experience. Defensive driving isn’t just steering out of an accident. Most of it is predicting what other drivers will do and not getting into a bad situation in the first place. And you can only do that with experience. Just the other day I quoted that insurance commercial: We know a thing or two because we’ve seen a thing or two.

ttyymmnn > CaptDale - is secretly British 06/04/2019 at 23:10

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The height of the truck, combined with the speed, just basically scraped the top of the car off. And probably took her head with it. I’m sure she never know what hit her.

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > daender 06/04/2019 at 23:14

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I’m a bit confused by this too. If you look at the Altima, the frame literally sheared off from the floorpan. This is evident in the video, so it definitely wasn’t cut by rescuers afterwards. I wonder if this car was structurally intact to begin with.

It’s possible that the truck was so much higher that its ladder frame caught the weld points and sliced through.  Either way, I’d be interested in further analysis.

VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely > nermal 06/05/2019 at 01:24

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That actually sounds pretty close to correct, more’s the pity. 80m ph isn’t something passenger car safety regs build to. 

Svend > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 06/05/2019 at 03:11

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The driver of the truck is in police custody and is suspected of DUI.

The woman in the first grey car that was hit is reported dead. The video shows there was barely anything she could have done. You can’t avoid everything.

I hate this.

With the drunk driver experiencing the ‘rag doll effect’ during the incident it means the driver is less prone to injury

Personally I wish if any one was to get hurt because of a drunk driver, I’d wish it was the drunk driver.

But our bodies are a strange entity.

I have only disdain for drink drivers. You want to risk your own life, fine, but nothing gives you the right to risk other peoples.

Berang > Just Jeepin' 06/05/2019 at 04:03

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Kind of a weird tangent, given the woman who was killed was not driving an old car, and I doubt any car, of any age, was going to do well in this particular case.

Berang > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 06/05/2019 at 04:06

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I hope the woman’s family sues him. I hope everybody involved in the accident sues him. I hope the property owners sue him and the city sues him. If he doesn’t end up in jail for a decade or so , he should spend the rest of his life owned by the people who had to suffer because of his total shit-ness at being a decent human being.

McMike > Just Jeepin' 06/05/2019 at 05:37

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“My kid is a good driver”

I would say “Successful” not “good”

It’s all relative and the bar is very, very low. If your metric is n o tickets, no accidents, and following the rules, it sounds like they are just barely pulling it off.

Whenever people ask me how long I have been riding motorcycles, their answer is always. “Wow, you must be pretty good” when I tell them I have been doing it for almost 30 years.

“Nope, just very successful.” is usually my answer.

UnderSTeerEnthusiast - Triumph Fanboy > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles 06/05/2019 at 07:42

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Yea but you’re also not a piece of human garbage 

OPPOsaurus WRX > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever 06/05/2019 at 07:54

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it looks like she was slowing for traffic and he was full throttle.  One of the comments in the Youtube video was from someone close to the impact and put the guy around 130 MPH.  I’m guessing she was doing around 30 or less with all the brake lights that were on.  Thats an impact from something around 5000 pounds going 100 mph faster. than the car it hits.  

OPPOsaurus WRX > nermal 06/05/2019 at 07:57

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someone in the youtube video said they were passed by the truck.  They were doing 70-80 mph and said they felt like they wer standing still when the truck passed and estimated it closer to 130 mph.

BeaterGT > OPPOsaurus WRX 06/05/2019 at 11:07

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Apparently, he has been involved in this sort of thing before.

Redclaws > nermal 06/05/2019 at 11:14

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80 to 85 mph is the normal flow of traffic on I-15 so he was definitely around 120mph the police were already chasing him for a hit and run about 10 miles back.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 06/05/2019 at 11:28

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Shit like this makes me want to cry.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > OPPOsaurus WRX 06/05/2019 at 12:08

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Yeah that sounds way more likely. 80mph is standard highway travel speed in Socal when traffic is moving. It looks like traffic was moving pretty good before coming upon the traffic area. The amount of destruction and speed offset looks more like 100 plus.

Mercedes Streeter > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) 06/05/2019 at 12:19

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Modern pickups have speed limiters, so unless it’s been deleted they were going no faster than 100 mph.

Mercedes Streeter > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) 06/05/2019 at 12:21

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Without a limiter delete (and that truck looks stock), no faster than 100.

I’ve pegged the speedometer on a few modern pickups (in far safer conditions, obviously), they won’t go any faster than 99-100.

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > Nauraushaun 06/05/2019 at 12:57

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I’m a proponent of regulating the height of crash structure, and that includes pickup trucks.

You can’t do anything about mass, but you can avoid a higher car riding over all of the critical safety structures of a lower car.

Saracen > nermal 06/05/2019 at 13:09

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No way in hell that was only 81mph.

I drive that corridor on a regular basis, everyone drives 70-80 there.

That speed differential between the truck and surrounding traffic was huge, and when that truck hit the car it disentegrated.

Another car that was hit went over a median across all the incoming traffic, and got flung into a damn building.

That driver was doing at least 40-50mph faster than surrounding traffic.

Saracen > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 06/05/2019 at 13:10

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I drive through Temecula several times a year, and I’m on the I-15 every day.  That shit’s terrifying.

VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely > Saracen 06/05/2019 at 13:17

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Yeah, it’s scary as hell.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > nermal 06/05/2019 at 13:30

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Asshole drives right up her tailpipe.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Just Jeepin' 06/05/2019 at 13:31

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Just inexperienced, not least, at making judgments.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 06/05/2019 at 13:36

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Chilling.

bob and john > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 06/05/2019 at 13:38

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jesus fuck. 

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 06/05/2019 at 15:07

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Holy shit. That’s horrible.

This is my single biggest fear when driving the Alfa. I know dead is dead, and she was in a modern, safe car, but still...

SpeedSix > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever 06/05/2019 at 15:08

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C rash structure height and headlight aim should be inspected.

Unlike other inspection items, i t shouldn’t affect the poor particularly - if you don’t mess up your car (i.e. it’s stock), then you don’t have to worry about incurring costs to fix crash structure height and headlight aim.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > Mercedes Streeter 06/05/2019 at 15:13

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100 is probably plenty fast enough if the other car was near nonmoving to cause extraordinary damage with zero braking applied. I am going to guess the truck weighs about 3000 kg (66 00 lb) moving at 45m/s ( 100mph) get a momentum of 135 ,0 00 kg*m/s versus the car at 1500kg (33 00 lb) moving at 5m/s (10mph) at a momentum of 7,500 kg*m/s . That difference is going to do very bad things! I kind of want to plug those into a simulator of some sort and see how far the car gets launched into orbit in an elastic collision. 

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > Mercedes Streeter 06/05/2019 at 15:26

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This one is kind of fun to play around with using those numbers:

https://phet.colorado.edu/sims/collision-lab/collision-lab_en.html

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > SpeedSix 06/05/2019 at 16:40

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This is an area where I used to be a stickler for vehicle safety inspections but now I’m not so sure I can argue one way or another.

Shall we enact more and more safety stuff, inspection stuff that may or may not be subsidised by the government, that generally drives up the cost of owning cars, and renders illegal a large swath of non-compliant cars, largely owned by the poor, who would then be unable to go to work and therefore end up placing a burden somewhere else in our society? All in the name of providing a safer motoring environment for the people who actually paid their dues and follow the rules?

Or shall we leave it be and hope that the societal cost (insurance claims, injuries and deaths, etc.) of dangerously ill-maintained or modified cars is small enough to the rest of us, “small enough” being some awful arbitrary number that nobody would ever agree on?

Either way, I hate to say this as a car enthusiast, but self-driving cars in collective ownership would get rid of so many problems on our roads. But that does open a different can of worms on the job market.

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > nermal 06/05/2019 at 17:06

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Are you in CA?  I’ve noticed some states have slightly different road painting dimensions.  For example, AZ and CO freeways have shorter lines than CA.  I’ve always wondered why this isn’t a national standard.

His Stigness > E92M3 06/05/2019 at 17:15

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June gloom in California baby!

Mercedes Streeter > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) 06/05/2019 at 17:37

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Oh yeah, it's no doubt horrifyingly fast. I was just debating that 130mph claim.

nermal > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever 06/05/2019 at 18:18

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No, I just bing’d it and that’s what the first result said. 

bubblestheturtle > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 06/05/2019 at 20:02

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Wow. When a car gets decapitated, the driver usually fares no better. That is an impressive level of suck.

bhtooefr > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever 06/06/2019 at 02:48

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Make it so that there’s more people who can’t drive, though, and you’ll have higher demand for mass transit and cycling infrastructure, which will improve the economics of actually putting that in.

Grindintosecond > Just Jeepin' 06/06/2019 at 11:16

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I was a damn good driver in my teens. I knew the laws and rules.

I could also powerslide an open diff volvo 242 . Knowing where and when to do that was not at all in my decision matrix programming.

A safe driver is totally different than a ‘good’ driver. Semantic definitions are lost on most people and in my teens, safe meant not hitting anything and not getting caught doing anything dumb, which I would never do because I was good at driving and not dumb at driving like those kids hitting things and getting caught. (me at 19 thought that)

I was dumb.

Michael > nermal 06/06/2019 at 11:19

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My quick googling indicates the lines are 10 ft, with 30 ft between them.  10+30=40, vs your 30, means 4/3 your estimated 81mph, approximately 108 mph

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Just Jeepin' 06/06/2019 at 11:21

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I will only let my children drive cars with ABS, Airbags and modern crumple zones, say mid 2000's cars and newer. I fully expect them to wreck a car in the first 2-4 years of driving. 

lscrx > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 06/06/2019 at 12:21

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My eldest is 5-6 years away from driving... I’m hoping my wife is ready to hand down her ‘19 Forester for something new by then... it has a lot of safety features that will probably go a long way towards keeping him out of trouble.  He’ll probably learn how to drive stick in my ‘17 Jetta, but it doesn’t have any autonomous features like the Subaru, so he won’t be driving it solo until he’s got some miles under his belt.  I used to say that my kids were going to get an old car when they turned 16, something we could work on and they could feel invested it... but now I’m more interested in them surviving.  None of them will be driving solo until they can change a tire, hook up jumper cables, and know at least the basics of vehicle maintenance.

lscrx > VincentMalamute-Kim 06/06/2019 at 12:24

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I don’t drink liquor (strictly beer) , but my wife enjoys a drink made with Malibu on occasion, so when I step into a liquor store I’m in-and-out in 30 seconds with the one specific bottle that I needed.  A drive-through liquor store would be great for me... and probably a lot of other people that just need a bottle of liquor/wine to take home and don’t need to peruse the 8000 other items in the store.  Now if they were serving actual drinks to drivers at the drive through... that would seem like a recipe for disaster.

lscrx > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 06/06/2019 at 12:57

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Here’s the rear camera footage, the pickup comes down the left shoulder just after the 1-minute mark.

nermal > Michael 06/07/2019 at 10:19

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I bing’d it, so that may be the reason for the discrepancy. 

Shamoononon drives like a farmer > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 06/07/2019 at 13:30

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I drive this every day.  This makes me hate so much. WHAT THE FUCK!!  That poor woman.  

InFierority Complex > lscrx 06/08/2019 at 10:44

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That white Toyota(?) saw the writing on the wall. I don’t think they got clipped or anything but as soon as that truck whipped by them they just noped off the road.

ItalianJobR53 - now with added 'MERICA and unreliability > VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely 06/09/2019 at 03:44

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damn that was bad...no vehicle is built to sustain that sort of an impact...